- T H E 6 T H F L O O R, http://www.greatmomentsofsportsmanship.com/not-that-you-won-or-lost-but/, https://www.pinterest.com/pin/487092515924974343/, Smiling Helps You Win In Sport and in Life | Great Moments Of Sportsmanship, http://www.greatmomentsofsportsmanship.com/smiling-helps-you-win-in-sport-and-in-life/, https://greatmomentsofsportsmanship.com/not-that-you-won-or-lost-but/, https://greatmomentsofsportsmanship.com/not-that-you-won-or-lost-but-how-you-played-the-game/, https://greatmomentsofsportsmanship.com/spread-the-moments/. It wont be whether we won or lost, - Grantland Rice (August 16, 1948) The original version of this poem was published in 1910 by The Tennessean Company. I purchased it from an estate sale. And the courage to fight till youve won, g = p.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; _Q: [] [19] The press box in Vanderbilt Stadium at Vanderbilt University is dedicated to Rice and named after Rice's protg, Fred Russell. var source = getCookieWithoutJQuery("source"); TO WIN OR LOOSE , AND BE THE SAME. I love his writing about The Four Horsemen of Notre Dame. On his return from the war, Rice discovered that his friend had lost all the money in bad investments, and then had committed suicide. [CDATA[ "Application": "GoodreadsMonolith", But Left Guard Envy broke it up and stood him on his ear. No one may dare accuse, It wont be whether we won or lost, Would love to share it but dont know how to post the picture. So were the policemen and the shopkeepers and the farmers and the factory owners. It believe in this instance it means flat referring to his flat face. Long may it inspire him and his family to come. Richard Beale previously suggested the poem, Alumnus Football, first appeared in an article written by Grantland Rice for the Nashville Tennessean in 1908 to describe a Vanderbilt alumnus football game. the dusk has come, the hour is late. })(); Thank you Karen for this intriguing insight. For when the One Great Scorer comes to write against your name He writes not tat you won or lost But how you played the game. [2] His grandfather Major H. W. Rice was a Confederate veteran of the Civil War. I just dont know for sure who wrote it. The gym and the elementary school were demolished years ago. I am not sure how we can clarify who wrote this beautiful verse and/or poem. That determines for you what degree of success Meanwhile, does anyone know, for sure, who wrote these words? Comments 2 - What Will Matter googletag.cmd.push(function() { And you always were doing your best! [2] He is interred at Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx, New York City. Ive just sat and indulged every word and line. I do hope to visit Texas to see a friend plus do some sportsmanship talks + do some business planning/marketing talks on the same trip during the next 12 months. var cookiePair = cookie.split('='); googletag.pubads().disableInitialLoad(); An ignorant man follows public opinion." Grantland Rice tags: decision , decision-making , decisions 5 likes Like "The flame of the inn is dim tonight, Too many vacant chairs. His writing was published in newspapers around the country and broadcast on the radio. The complete poem as I recall We cant all play a winning game, someone is sure to lose, Yet we can play so that our name no one may dare accuse, that when the master referee scores against our name, it wont be whether we won or lost but how we played the game. In dramatic lore they are known as famine, pestilence, destruction and death. init: function() { googletag.pubads().enableSingleRequest(); The: Christian Brothers of Ireland is a well-known congregation (founded by Cardinal Newman) that arrived in Uruguay near the year of 1950 with the purpose of starting an educational center. //=0){return}if("ue_https" in e){f=e.ue_https}else{f=e.location&&e.location.protocol=="https:"?1:0}i=f? Their real names are: Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. There we learned the English language, Religion, and all the other signatures. In the 1920s at the height of their business, The Buzza Co. produced their finest work. Many thanks Mike. Soon after, they were. Until at last above the din you hear this sentence spilled: , He is now 84 years old and in great form. He also provided monthly Grantland Rice Sportlights as part of Paramount newsreels from 1925 to 1954. Thanks, Many thanks Wendy. Paul, One of the great sports poems of all time by one of the greatest sports writers. function(a9, a, p, s, t, A, g) { Paul, There is a boys camp in Goshen Pass, Va called Camp Virginia. Also have a look in the comments and youll see another Lions player who used to quote this verse to his children a long long time ago. After all, hed been there most of the day. var ue_id = "PTPHS3MESDKWDQ4ZK9G7"; The Rices bought a house overlooking the ocean in East Hampton, N.Y., next door to Ring Lardner and his family. Have enjoyed the thread! He was my daddys hero, basically.. Mark, this is wonderful. What of their spirit, individual acts of supreme courage and bravery? And this is how Meacham explained, in a segment this week on MSNBC, his standard for distinguishing those who should and shouldnt be held aloft: Was the person or the institution being memorialized ultimately devoted to the pursuit of a more perfect union? Great to hear others use these great words also. the bugle rolled the reveille. Grantland Rice: It's Not Whether You Win or Lose - Homeschool Express Does this raise question as to Grantland Rice being the originator? From goal to goal he whizzed along while fragments, strewed the plain, If you are watching the World Cup this verse may be appropriate also as there are so many close games and penalty shoot outs! I am delighted with your information. 11 comments since 2009 separate post/article http://tinyurl.com/k7z3ow4 That he could make his distance through a ten-foot granite wall. According to author Mark Inabinett in his 1994 work, Grantland Rice and His Heroes: The Sportswriter as Mythmaker in the 1920s, Rice very consciously set out to make heroes of sports figures who impressed him, most notably Jack Dempsey, Babe Ruth, Bobby Jones, Bill Tilden, Red Grange, Babe Didrikson, and Knute Rockne. Coincidentally, I spoke in Notre Dame and we now have a great alliance. You can download this as a poster by clicking on it or print it out and post it onto a notice board, or a dressing room. He actually took a $20-a-week pay cut to take a job with the New York Evening Mail in 1910. I know nothing of the origin of this poem. url = "https://s.gr-assets.com/assets/mobile/phone_images-9e9093f0cfddba8c2b1e815375d976a3.css"; There are lines like this, from his book, amid the celebration of Owens and what he achieved: During that first week of August 1936, the Berlin weather was cold and rainy hardly the weather that Owens would have chosen, for Negroes generally function best in intense heat., Its a jarring utterance of an ugly stereotype, not unlike this line from a chapter on Jim Thorpe: The Indian is a great natural athlete. B. Downie. } var useSSL = "https:" == document.location.protocol; and play the game! [Newbolt]. i once became a player of chess but i loose the game but i accept it because my father and teacher always say to me play the game fair and accept the result of the game and be sport, Hello. Game Called. and will invite anyone to send more information. Meanwhile, scroll down to choose a story categorised by a country or a sport. My dad was the youngest of 5 boys and he was born in 1921. Grantland Rices poem was published in 1941. They are best filled with a balanced account, rather than the flowery acclaim he favored. Previous. ~ Paul. Quote by Grantland Rice: "It's not whether you win or lose, it's how Joe Rexrode is a senior staff writer for The Athletic covering all things Nashville and some things outside Nashville. I wonder if the Buzza company did the graphics on this lovely verse? for(var i=0; iRice, Grantland Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame Thanks. Pass it on. 1 November 1880 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee; d. 13 July 1954 in New York City), sportswriter who was the most powerful and far-reaching voice in U.S. sports for nearly half a century, and who first said it mattered "not that you won or lost, but how you played the game." Fascinating stuff. That counts when the playing is through! Just a FYI. "you are meant to play the ball as it lies." Grantland Rice 6 likes Like "A wise man makes his own decisions. The plot thickens. As such, it can be served by no apologies or defenses, Fountain wrote, and deserves damnation less than it deserves understanding.. Not to add to the mystery but I was sorting our bookcase and found a rendering of. I have also got some feedback from Linkedin Sports discussion which I wil try and dig out and post here soon. He and his writing are among the reasons that the 1920s in the United States are sometimes referred to as the "Golden Age of Sports". for(var i=0; iGrantland Rice Quotes (Author of The tumult and the shouting ) - Goodreads Coincidentally, the verse hung on my parents bedroom wall in Dublin, Ireland many moons ago, was, coincidentally was both held together and framed, using black masking tape (as were all the family photos on the walls in our home!). setDisplayBids: function() {}, This is fascinating. The fight is done and lost or won, the player files out through the gate. From Grantland Rice - My Really Good Essays and Poems The picture above poem is the cottage in a wreath of embroidered flowers, This was in my grand parents home in New Brunswick Canada. Your grandfather Mr. Brugh, roomed with Grantland Rice. !function(){function n(n,t){var r=i(n);return t&&(r=r("instance",t)),r}var r=[],c=0,i=function(t){return function(){var n=c++;return r.push([t,[].slice.call(arguments,0),n,{time:Date.now()}]),i(n)}};n._s=r,this.csa=n}(); I am just now reading your comment. Let Courage call the signals as you keep on coming back. I didnt bother about it one way or another.. It is in an old glass case maybe 5 X 5 inches. ! Everyone loved him. He won the 2009 Pulitzer Prize for his biography American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House, wrote a celebrated biography of Thomas Jefferson and was chosen by the Bush family to write George H.W. But did you beat the spread? This is Rices account from The Tumult and the Shouting: When I encountered Owens after that jump, back at his quarters, he was the same modest person he had always been. Game Called by Henry Grantland Rice - Famous poems, famous poets. - All stylesheet.rel = "stylesheet"; I found out from my mother that her father, E.S. Hilarious stuff Dave many thanks. It was installed in 1978. RICE, Grantland ( b. } Maintaining a rosy view of a Confederate figure who had a role in the massacre of more than 300 black Union troops at the 1864 Battle of Fort Pillow is problematic. var ue_sid = "869-7942173-5192773"; These are only aliases. went on to be a school teacher and Principal at Tarbox School. Subscribe to The Athletic for in-depth coverage of your favorite players, teams, leagues and clubs. I never forgot that line. This poem hung over the entrance to our elementary schools gym. As Tony OReilly said: They were like The Odd Couple, Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon, inseparable and enormous fun.. You remember the poem from your childhood education with the Christian Brothers. Oh Boy, he said, the main point now before you win your bout But he took in a good spirit and was always known as Chato. ~ Paul. Money everywhere they turn from morning to the night He became interested in the sport in 1909 while covering the Southern Amateur at the Nashville Golf Club. [4] On the football team, he lettered in the year of 1899 as an end and averaged two injuries a year. Our family has a metal plaque from the Shapleigh Hardware Co. with this quote, no author referenced. I ask because I came across 5 pages of hand typed poetry edited by a Douglas Delong, Aug. 10, 1943. fetchBids: function() { // page settings } Am sure you know this, but if not, you might enjoy it. }()); His writing was published in newspapers around the country and broadcast on the radio. function isShowingBuyableFeatures() { A rent collector tackled him and threw him for a loss. Become an ambassador (looks good on your CV). His syndicated column, "The Sportlight," was the most influential of its day . When he started in Uruguay he spoke just a couple of words of Spanish, and it was only later he found out, probably not best pleased, what the nickname the boys had given him meant. How You Played the Game: The Life of Grantland Rice (Volume 1) You can use our stories in a structured programme. This is very interesting. Thank you. googletag.pubads().setTargeting("author", [9741]); } He called boxer Joe Louis a valued friend and chronicled the exploits of Jesse Owens and Babe Didrikson in the same florid, hero-making style that he employed to chronicle the exploits of Ruth, Cobb and Knute Rockne. Game Called by Henry Grantland Rice - Famous poems, famous poets. That is not an ideological point. Perhaps you might email me the photo and Ill then post it for you. I have a Buzza Motto "Playing The Game" poem credited to J. 1979).. Paul. But one day, when across the Field of Fame the goal seemed dim, ! Regardless of who wrote it they are powerful words and an acid test as to whether a coach or a player really believes in sportsmanship will they post the poster up? Im sure I read it first at Harpeth Hall in high school. gads.type = "text/javascript"; Just keep your eye upon the ball and plug on, yard by yard, I will ask him where he first heard that quote and hopefully answer your query. Meaner men are not capable of measuring him., Wonderful, Russell said of Rice. Paul. Grantland Rice was one of his primary "assistant coaches" in this area. And Chato what did that mean? Mr. Rice knew that it's important to play fairly and that it's important to be a good sport. } ~ Paul. 25 comments Since the original 2008 post/article http://tinyurl.com/6zo7fvac Tell a friend. Mr. Kelly most likely has a framed motto published by The Buzza Co., who also published under Craftacres the name of their building in Minneapolis, from 1925. The tumult dies, the cheer is hushed, the stands are bare, the park is still. Incidentally, I read the verse to 60 Year 5 students (aged 9) yesterday and they loved it. stylesheet.type = "text/css"; Part of it's percentage, and the rest is guarantee. He pleads with parents to let kids have fun and theyll keep at it that is sportsmanship also. Interesting to see who the World Cup heroes are see home page for my 3 World Cup Sportsmanship heroes. Easily done, I suppose, but on a wall plaque!? This is known as the Players prayer at Stella Maris College in Uruguay mentioned by Marcus Aznarez. In this famous College, when I was a very little child, I learned this very short poem, just as I wrote it here. Rice was a significant name in the burgeoning field of sportswriting when he returned to Nashville in 1907 to serve as the main attraction of a new paper, The Tennessean getting paid a hefty $70 a week. Sorry for slow reply. But how we played the game. //]]>. Though Rice's ode to sportsmanship is over 100 years old, it's still relevant today (maybe even more so) as stories of bad behavior by people who . Christmas 1927 With the Grantland Rice name in this thread, I thought I would throw this curveball (hahahahaha )Lee Mero married Kathryn Rice in 1920!!!! During . Things have changed a bit since then. // The Game. They had two extra men to ring the ambulance alarm. I have heard of Buzzo, though Jacob B Downie is new to me. } } I just wrote without thinking. A.src = t; In fact I wrote it down because I was so impressed by it. Kevin Blackistone, Washington Post columnist and University of Maryland journalism professor, wrote in an email that Rice and his peers of that time promoted outwardly, or tacitly, the racist segregation of sport., It wasnt until Lester Rodney in the mid-(19)30s for the socialist paper The Daily Worker started challenging sport to tear down the color barriers theyd erected in step with Jim Crow laws, Blackistone said of the catalyst for change. Anyways thank you once again. So sorry, Paul! Two of these poems I cannot find anywhere..It looks like Mr. Delong was editing for someone. The Quotations Page: Quote from Grantland Rice He must have been hard as nails, a fantastic player as well as as a gentle and kind father to read you, or quote you this beautiful verse. For example, the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest a celebrated Confederate general, and a slave trader, and the first Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan that sits in the Tennessee State Capitol in Nashville is the subject right now of intense debate between lawmakers. On the baseball team, he was captain in 1901.[4][5]. Jon Meacham, of Chattanooga, a University of the South graduate, was a visiting Vanderbilt professor in political science before the school appointed him to the Carolyn T. and Robert M. Rogers Chair in American Presidency. The back says "To my sister, Ann, with love., Florence. Rice died at the age 73 on July 13, 1954, following a stroke. Excuse me: if (window.csa) { For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name, Certain steroids, used properly, can cure certain diseases." (Canseco 3). Big Center Greed slipped through a hole and rammed him out of bounds. Thank you again Peggy warm wishes to you and yours from London and Dublin. ODonnell perhaps his people were from Donegal in Ireland? For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name, Trivially Speaking: 'How you play the game' leaves a lasting legacy The illuminated plaque which has Grantland Rices poem attributed wrongly to Newbolt (Sir Henry Newbolt, not Cardinal Newman) is confusing how you played the game [Rice] with Play up! In the great game of Life its the purpose to win, Your grandfather sounded like a lovely man. If you leave me an email I will send you a screen shot of the piece, but it reads as follows: We cant all play a winning game, someone is sure to lose, Yet we can play so that our name, no one may dare accuse. You might enjoy reading the whole poem, which is on the theme of perseverance. I am 80 years old and have a framed wall poem by Rices career was interrupted to serve in World War I at 37 years old. The founder of the congregation of the Christian Brothers was not Cardinal Newman. Jim McCarthy, captained Munster and Ireland and played with the Lions. function getCookieWithoutJQuery(name) { He said he had learned it as a young man when he played cricket. That when the Master Referee HELP ME LORD They specially promoted the practice of sports. This discussion has been going on since 2008 and Ive never heard this angle. I havent even thought about it, (Owens) said. Did he plagiarize or was the idea his own. Uruguay wow! Greetings Cooleen. [CDATA[ Not sure about Newbolt. a[a9]._Q.push([c, r]) Grantland Rice, "Alumunus Football," Only the Brave and Other Poems, p. 144 (1941) More quotations on: [ Sports] Today's Poem ~ The Game - Have a Great Day To write against your name, He is featured as a character in the movie Bagger Vance as well. Its not how you win or lose, but how you play the game, is a misquote from the poem.! Share our stories. The wise old coach, Experience, came up and spoke to him. As we understand the term today, he was most assuredly a bigot, Fountain wrote of Rice. From all the above it should be evident that the idea was NOT first expressed by Grantland Rice. That was in the early part of the last century, well before 1941. Thank you. Keep coming back In the book Juiced, Jose says "Steroids used correctly, will not only make you stronger and sexier, they will also make you healthier. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds this afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down upon the bewildering panorama spread out upon the green plain below. How You Played the Game: The Life of Grantland Rice IEEE MACE Student Branch on Instagram: ""It's not whether you win or Robert, thank you very much for this new angle to this discussion which has been going on for a few years on this site (see also other discussion for an additional discussion). Thx again for your powerful words: The poem lives on. if (sourcesToHideBuyFeatures[i] == source) return true; Quotation #35596 from Classic Quotes: For when the One Great Scorer comes. Others tell me it is Robert W Service.